Wednesday, August 13, 2008

Chapter 8

23 comments:

BenjaminW said...

Poetry is an easy way for kids to learn how to put words together. My two year old can't get all of the words out but the sentences she puts together are better in a rythmic form. I have noticed that she takes to lyrical poetry the best. Teaching your rules in a class room can be done through song and rythms. As we start into our Poet study this was an interesting chapter. It allowed me to get into the mind set and start some early research. I looked hard at the section on Shel Silverstein.

jacques said...

Jacques said
Chapter 8 Poetry
Due Sat. Oct. 18th, 2008

I really enjoyed reading this Chapter on Poetry it was very interesting. Poetry has always been one of my favorites as a child. I agree with the author that poetry attracts the children and also appeals to their emotions. Poetry gives a new understanding to our world as well as other worlds people live in. Poetry also gives us joy and hope when nothing else in life does. The elements in poetry can be colorful with the use of the right rhythm, sound, repetition, and imagery and shape as well. I have also enjoyed reading poems about animals, and science. The poetry that they have in the world is wonderful to listen to as well. I also enjoy writing poetry as well and also reading other people’s poetry. Poetry is good at any age to read for students.

Cheryl P-H said...
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Cheryl P-H said...

Benjamin w,

Yes poetry is a great way for children to learn how to put words together. Great point!

SarahS said...

I really enjoyed this chapter on poetry. I’ve had mixed experiences in the past regarding poetry – some I don’t enjoy, others I can’t wait to share with friends. So this was really good information for me. The focus on children and poetry, that information, was great. I agreed with the point made that often times poems can be easier for children to relate to and benefit from than some stories or books. I think poetry would be a good tool for students struggling with language skills because poems are shorter and a lot of times easier to read – there are so many that rhyme and have a noticeable rhythm that would be helpful to these students. I think the great differences in poems provide so much for teachers to work with in the classroom – one of my absolute favorites as a student was, and still is, the work done by Shel Silverstein.

SarahS said...

Cheryl - I will admit that the length of poems is also a plus for me. And I agree that the rhymes and rhythms are also an attractive quality of poetry for young and old.

BenjaminW said...

Sarah,
I was the same about having mixed emotions about poetry, of course I really didn't like to read anything. I found poetry something that was short and I could get through it easily.

JosephC said...

Poetry isn't my favorite subject but I can see how it can work in a classroom. Many children's poems have repeating words and rhyming endings so it makes it easy for the kids to follow along. Older children can look at a quick 4 or 5 stanzas and then try to interpret them which can help with comprehension.

I would say that I do like the works of Robert Frost, though.

JosephC said...

Ben,

I wish I had mixed emotions about poetry....I just don't. If you have something to say to me, just say it, don't write a haiku and expect me to figure out your intent. It won't happen. I can read some and understand it and those I guess I like (Robert Frost, for example), the rest I just avoid.

I'm hoping for better patience and acceptance, though.

Anonymous said...

Chapter 8 Poetry
Laura Tawater


Chapter 8 was about poetry, the values of it, the definition, characteristics, criteria, elements, forms, and poets. I really never knew what the definition of poetry was so I was anxious to read abou that. When I read the definition, it said it wasn't easily defined but was basically about using poetic elements and the functions of words. The greatest definition I read about was the emphasis of emotional impact. I beleive this is what draws people to poetry but think that adults or more attracted to the emotional part of the poem than children. Children I believe are attracted to the rhythm and the rhyming. These elements allow children to memorize poems and help them read better because of the memorization piece.

Reading about the criteria for poems was interesting too. I think when people write poetr, they awlways woner if they did it right. I think we can really be the judges on that just by knowing the poem flows and sounds good. Some of the elements for poetry are rhythm,rhyme and other sound patterns, repetition, imagery, and shape. there are also different types and forms of poetry.
I know that I remember a lot of the Mother Goose Rhymes because my mother said them to me when I was little. I know say them to my children. It's amazing what the impact of poetry does on people!!!

Anonymous said...

Response to sarahs:

I agree that there are a lot of poems I don't care for. Some just don;t make sense to me and I can't even find rythm in it. I've heard people say though, it doesn't matter if others understand the poem, only the poet. I guess that's what makes poems so mysterious, we are always trying to figure them out!

Linda McCrary said...

Poetry is interesting. There is all different kinds and I think that I have always enjoyed poetry although when it came to the non-rhyming, I am with Joe, it wasn't my favorite subject. However, I have found something interesting with poetry. It is a wonderful way to help children-learn history (on the 18th of April in 75, hardly a man is now alive, who remembers that so long ago, of the midnight ride of Paul Revere.) they can also learn reading technics to help them comprehend.
In old times children where taught using the rhyming and singing to learn. (a song that can be heard on Alfred Hitchcocks movie, The Birds is:2 and 2 are 4, 4 and 4 are 8, 8 and 8 are 16, 16 and 16 are 32)
Poetry is a wonder learning tool and I will probably use it as often as I can.

Linda McCrary said...

Reply to Sarah,
I also agree with what you said. "that often times poems can be easier for children to relate to and benefit from than some stories or books." Children love to hear rhyme and it aids in their learning. I use it quite a bit, especially when I worked with a five year old who had Downs. He had a hard time forming words and using the rhyme helped to excersize his mouth in forming words. (He wanted to do it) Song was also wonderful.

TaraM said...

Poetry is one of my favorites. A few of my favorite types are the lyric poems and the ones that children can move to. I find that children learn so much through poetry--it's truly amazing how much they retain and how fast they take in the information when you incorporate poetry with the lesson. I think it's appealing to them since it comes off more like a game than school work. The text again provides a ton of great ideas on how to incorporate poetry in the classroom. I particularly enjoyed Jana Wright Prewitt's information on how she incorporates poetry on each subject that she teaches. She gives you a great start for poetry to include in each lesson. She also states that she conducted research on the importance of using poetry on a daily basis. I wish more of her information would have been provided including research numbers to back up her statements.

TaraM said...

SarahS-

You highlighted great information. You stated "I agreed with the point made that often times poems can be easier for children to relate to and benefit from than some stories or books."

I think it's going to be a lot of work when we begin our journeys as teachers to find poetry that goes with each subject we are teaching--but it's important to keep your statement in mind. If we make the subject we are teaching easier to relate to--children will ultimately benefit the most by taking away the most from the lessons.

Ember D. said...

Chapter 8 discusses the elements of poetry and how to best use it for children. Poetry is one of the reasons I love to read. I first fell in love with literature when I read "A light in the Attic". The books that have a good rhythmic form are the ones that my child chooses to hear. Poetry in the classroom can be used in many ways. Teaching rhyming words works together with word families.

Off subject...a great website for the classroom is www.gigglepoetry.com.

Ember D. said...

Response to Cheryl P-H:

I wrote poetry as a teenager too, and am in the process of writing a rhyming children's book. This chapter helped me to work on the fundamentals of my poem.

Unknown said...

Alison Miller
I enjoyed this chapter as well. I really like reading poetry, especially Shel Silverstein when I was younger. Reading this chapter has helped with the different forms of poetry. That part of the chapter really cleared up some confusion for myself. I had forgotten what the differences are between limericks, haiku's and ballads

Unknown said...

Ember-
That's so great you're writing a children's rhyming book. What is it about so far?

Anonymous said...

Chapter 8 is another chapter piled high with lots of great information and resources. Personally, I really enjoy poetry. Writing it, reading it, and listening to it. I was so pleased to see that Paul Fleischman(he is one of my favorites) was mentioned in this chapter. Having poems read in two voices is really great! It was also interesting to read that not as many middle school students are exposed to poetry as the younger ones. I think, as prospective teachers, we should be aware of this and try to use poetry with our students. I love the idea of poems written so that there words form a physical shape regarding the poem. This would be really fun to do with students! The activities towards the end of the chapter are an extremely valuable resource we can refer back to time and time again. Poetry itself manifests in so many different ways, each teacher is bound to find a style they prefer and each would do well to teach it to their students.

Anonymous said...

In response to Benjamin

Benjamin,
I agree with you fully that poetry helps children string words together. I love your idea of using poetry in procedures. Songs and rhythms are what young children retain, so to tie the two together would seem to work marvelously. Thanks for the great idea!

VanessaC said...

This was my least favorite chapter. I think it is because I'm not much of a poetry fan. There is a lot of hidden meaning in the poems. I guess I'm a straight forward type of person and like the meaning the in front of me, but I can see where poetry is good for children. It gives them an opportunity to imagine what is happening. It also provides them with rhyme. Poetry is usually short, which is good for children at a young age.

VanessaC said...

In response to Joe's comment on Ben's post.....

I am in the same boat with you Joe. I'm not much for trying to find the hiding meaning in poetry either. Give it to me straight. I will understand it better if it is straight forward.